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Conclusion

Well, the 58 days is up. It's time to look over the last 58 days and see if the 58 day seed covenant worked. Here is a brief summary of the things that happened:

I did not receive what I specifically asked for. I asked for $3,340.30 at the beginning of the covenant, and did not receive it. In fact, my loan amount increased.

I entered 5 surveys with a chance to win $1,000 dollars but did not win any of them.

I started having car trouble.

I got a letter from my bank saying my account was overdrawn, and was charged 21 dollars.

I started having severe pain in my mouth, and I needed to see a dentist. I decided not to, so it wouldn't interfere with the 58 day seed covenant.

I entered a survey to win a $25,000 "new look," but did not win.

No one ever just "walked up to me and handed me money," but I did find a quarter on the floor at a restaurant.

I got $832.86 back on my tax return.

So, does Mike Murdock's 58 day seed covenant really work? You decide.
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Faithseeker, I do not know why this has not worked. Is it a scam? Does this Mike Murdock not have the right intentions to pray that the seed you planted be multiplied? What about what your inner expectations? I would leave it on the hands of the Lord. Right now, it sounds like Satan is trying to discourage you with the little problems that have erupted. Don't allow satan to doscourage you. Belive ion the miracles of the Lord,they are for today. Remember God is on control. If you do not get the money to pay back your student loan, it was God's decision. Through this experience, God may be developing your character to prepare you for greater things to come. Furthermore, the seed you planted in faith may come around much later at another date.
On a side note, it might be a thought to write to this Mike Murdock and let them know that it is now the end of the covenant. If he is guaranteeing this, then where are the results???
 
faithseeker, I've been following your 58 day wait.

From the beginning I didn't think the seed covenant would work, but I did hope you would get your original money back. Maybe you can ask for a refund? :)
 
First of all, I thank everyone for their comments. Although it would've been nice to get the loan paid off, I will not let this interfere with my relationship with Christ. As the previous poster suggested, I have sent an email to both Daystar and Mike Murdock. I asked Daystar what they do when someone does not receive what they were promised, and I asked Mike Murdock to explain why I didn't receive the $3,340. I will wait a few weeks to see what their response is. Once I get a responce from them, I will begin praying about whether I should ask for my 58 dollars back.
 
I got an email from Daystar, and they want to refund my money. As I said before, I will not let this affect my relationship with Christ, and I hold no ill-feelings toward Daystar or anyone else. In fact, I consider this an opportunity for growth. I am still waiting for a reply from Mike Murdock.
 
Your absolutley right faithseeker... this should not at all affect you realtionship with Christ. but it should affect your relationship with televangelists. If the seed covenant really worked Mike Murdock would be sending us money, instead of the other way around.

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The check from Daystar came in the mail the other day. They refunded the $58 dollars. I still haven't heard from Mike Murdock, though. I'd like to hear something. I wouldn't mind if he just sent me a book or something. It would be better than nothing.
 
I got a small book from Mike Murdock today. "Seeds of Wisdom on Problem Solving." Thanks Mike.
 
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I think you are an ignorant. Mike Murdock didn't say he has a magic wand. This past 58 days you've focused about YOU and only YOU, that's why you get nothing. There are other things that please God besides planting the seed, they are all linked. PRAY, FAST, GIVE and FORGIVE. Focus on the Lord and not on your problems. Stop being a hypocrite.
 
Carmen, I appreciate your comment, even though it was a bit rude. I have to point out, though, that I did pray. You may have missed it, but nearly every entry in my blog was a prayer. On the other hand, if I'd received the $3,340.30 would your comments on this blog have been more positive?
 
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Wow. What an interesting thing you have done. I just saw Mike Murdock for the first time ever, and was alternately irritated and impressed with him and his message. I'm very impressed that Daystar refunded the $58 and that you got a book from Murdock. Now, about your expectations...I'd suggest doing a little google research on Murdock and then let the truth of God as a sure fire slot machine set in. I do think God will bless your sweet spirit and expectation to bless you, but it won't be with that exact dollar amount Murdock seemed to promise. God is in the business, it seems to me, of always surprising us with how he blesses us. Never will He fit in a slot of our expectations, other than our knowing He knows exactly what we need.

I note that you consistently ask the Lord for wisdom, and I suspect that you have had an opportunity to reap a measure of that precious commodity. Wisdom would whisper that you have had a time of close scrutiny of this man who preaches God's word and a time of assessment of not only him, Daystar, those who respond on this site, but yourself. Don't you think you're wiser for this experience? I think you should return the $58 to Daystar since I bet you've more than gotten $58 worth of wisdom from all this.

I pray that you'll be greatly blessed in wisdom and that God will talk to much more about these specific dollars!
 
I'm glad that Daystar refunded the money that Mike Murdoch scammed you out of. This guy should be charged with scheming to defraud if you ask me--along with all of his cohorts--Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts and ESPECIALLY that snake oil salesman Steve Munsey for driving the money changers back into the temple.

Just remember, these charlatans are deceptive, but G-d and G-d alone is true, always faithful, always trustworthy, always honest and has your best interests at heart.


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Just the thought of you getting a "refund" from Murdock proves that you never really let go of your offering in the first place. So, knowing that, you were never in faith by actually "letting go" of your seed to get anything, anyway. How many farmers do you know say, "well, that seed hasn't grown yet. I'll just dig it back up"?

Faith is a unknown walk. It's Abram raising a knife to kill Isaac. It's disciples dropping all they had to follow Jesus, no questions, no back-up plan. It's all about God and his ability, and believing that he can do what he said he will do.

This "test" was flawed from the get go. Your seed had to die first to grow, but now you're talking about pulling it back out of the ground, so it really never died at all, and really, you never let it go. You showed your unbelief from the start by starting this blog, and you'll probably never get anything from God until you change your double minded-nature, and believe he is the God "He Can" instead of "I hope he can".
 
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This living corpse is a liar and a charlatan and God will judge him.He wouldnt send you a 58 dollar seed if you asked him i can assure you, unless there was something in it for him. I saw him once on the tele and thought he was a repugnant reptile. He admitted to loving shopping in Harrods,[very tacky. Harvey Nichols is the place darlings if ever you get as rich as him]and name dropped like mad. He is very carnal and your 58 dollar seed probably paid for his hamburger in Knightsbridge during one of his Harrods sprees. Weve all been fleeced at one time or another. Dont let it happen again. Dickens's Uriah Heap could take a leaf out of his book. they are all liars and charlatans.

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Gary,

I did not ask for my money back. I sent an email to Daystar stating that the 58 days expired, and asked what they do when a donor fails to receive a return on his donation. Daystar volunteered to return the money. You should also keep in mind that the 58 days seed covenant stipulates that a donor will receive a return within 58 days. If a person soliciting a donation does not want the donor to expect to see a result within a specific time period, say 58 days, they should indicate so at the time of solicitation.
 
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yea, i'm not going to say how i know, but mike murdock is indeed a crook.

he's lied to people on tv, saying things like, "if you sow a $1000 seed, i'll personally call you back and thank you." no tv evangelist with a brain would do that, and not because they're unkind beggars (like murdock), but because it's not realistic to offer that, due to the amount of people who would call him.

also, i've heard him say that you have to sow a seed of $1000 just to be PRAYED for... if i want to be prayed for, and for FREE, by those who CARE, i'll go to MY church.

i've also heard him use "fortune teller tricks". what do i mean, you ask? well, i mean him saying something like, and this is a specific example, "God has told me that someone who has been in and out of court will call and sow a $1000 seed." i mean, that's BEYOND fortune teller tricks. he doesn't even give a TIME-FRAME! someone's relatives could hop out of the grave, and call murdock, had they been in and out of court at ANY point since the dawning of time!

bottom line: i, and many other people, obviously, do not believe such a person is to be trusted, and neither should anyone else.

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Hi....I know its been a while since youve entered this blog, but I came across it while searching info on Mike Murdoch. I am sad that you didnt get the money you wanted from God to pay off the loan you took out but when these things happen we must ask ourselves why God gives to some and not to others. From reading your blog entries I get the impression your heart was not in the right place, please dont take offence to this, you replied to one comment about prayer that you did pray but praying on a blog entry doesnt necessarily make it a prayer. When we sow a seed for God we need to be sowing it for the right reasons and not because we need a quick fix to a problem we have brought on ourselves. Maybe Gods answer to your prayers would be to get a job and pay off your loan and through that God can teach you far more than just handed you a few thousand dollars on a plate and making your problems disappear with a magic wand. God is in the business of molding us and teaching us so that we can be a blessing to others not just giving us quick fix answers to any problem we may come across. God answers our prayers when the attitude of our heart is right and he gives us the answer that will glorify his name. I pray God will give you the solution you need to pay this debt....as he did with me and that you will be able to lead others in such a way.
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Later on, I decided to buckle down and use extreme financial discipline, and paid all my debt completely off!!! No more college loans! But just before paying off my college loans I had another major tooth ache. This one made the first one feel like a picnic. I went to the dentist (I ditched the one that charged me $500 bucks to pull a tooth for a more reasonably priced one) and got a tooth removed. But this time I was told that I needed extensive work.

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May God bless you faithseeker. I've been there. For some of us the period from planting to harvest takes a decade. As a Bible School student you have focused on the right things. Why not put God to the Malichi test and double tithe to 20% and watch the harvest roll in in the next decade!
 
I feel that there are many Christians who don't trust God enough to provide for his/her needs. I am praying that God will help each of us to trust & depend on Him more than on luck or any one man's ministry. I would like to share my seed faith story here, but I do not know how I can do so.
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Seed-faith is a heresy. It's a twisted interpretation of the parable of the sower.
 
Yes it is sad, and God will be his judge, another one is Steven Muncie, if I spelt it correctly.
From God TV to INI to others, except Revelation TV thank God.

This is why I stopped giving to God TV few years back now, something did not quite sit right, this is why I've removed most of the those Christian channels raising money in this way from my tv channels page.

Now on the other side of the coin, sure God does and has blessed those that give, but from the heart, whatever amount they can afford.

Putting pressure on people to give a certain amount is not nice though and I'm sure as many have found out, they have not been blessed and may have ended up in an even worse position, do we hear about them?

But those of us awake need not be alarmed, horrible as this sort of thing is, if it is a con, just shows the signs of the times we are in, from hurricanes to floods, earthquakes, tsunamis and so on.
 
I forgot to add and now having read much of what others have said, and God forgive me if wrong that why these things do not sit right with me is as follows:

Trouble comes I think, for me personally, in someone asking for specific amounts placing pressure on those watching.

This happened to me once, early days few years back, getting into Christian TV, God TV etc.

I just believe if someone was genuine that they would ask you to give whatever amount you could afford from your heart.

This is what I mean, when you start saying you will get this back and that and a free book, you are buying greed.
Also the prayers on the altar thing at God TV, it's awful, why the reformation happened I believe, it's like this:

'Hey you guys out there, if you sow a seed of $1000 I'm going to personally pray for you, so get your prayer requests in (Buying a prayer, wow expensive) and also not only that for your kind donation I'm gonna send you a free book (worth a few dollars tops.) And folks it does not stop there, God will be blessing your faith with a return, I'll give you an example, this guy was in debt to the tune of $10,000, he had the last bit of money and rather than pay off some of that loan, he heard my speech and in obedience he sowed the $1,000 he had just worked all summer and saved for.
Within three weeks, I say only three weeks, he received an anonymous cheque for $2,500, would you believe that, (actually no, probably you, lol, or just one of the lucky ones, some tax return mistake, or something daft.)

The point now is that this person watches thinks, yeah, money, money, money, what about the money being given, blessing the station he is watching, what about salvation, all the rest.

First he can buy that prayer from a man of God, amen, oh the book, must have that, so kind of them to bless me with it, and thirdly, money, money, money, ohh Abba's song, I must have a 2 to 3 fold return.

The outlook and impression given is all wrong, and that's my point, it does not sit easy with me.

Mike is not the only one, Muncey and probably couple of others.
As I said in the previous post God will be their judge, true, but if they are charlatans for us to sit back and do nothing, say nothing, means we go along with letting them de-fraud people out of their money, and as we often here, it does not sit pretty with those that it does not work out for, if they are not grounded in God, probably gonna think they have been had and trust no man of God and worse still God Himself again.

By the way, never did hear back from God TV years back when I sent them an email saying I seen this Muncey on others channels doing this, they let him go on, and so I then rang up, said I don't want the tv guide anymore and wish to stop giving, and gave to Revelationtv.com instead.
 
I'm impressed that Daystar gave back your money. I do have to wonder, however, whether they give back the worthless $1,000 seeds as well as the $58 ones.

When I saw Murdock on TV, I was disheartened by the way he was clearly targeting people who have massive amounts of debt. That seems predatory to me. Jesus never encouraged people to give more than they have (hence, the debt), but rather, praises them for giving as much as they can--even if the amount doesn't compare with that of richer folks (Mark 12.41-44).
 
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when did giving to God become a mail order prayer system with a 58 days guaratee. God loves a cheerful giver, you probably should not have given in the first place. Where you giving to God or Murdoch? Did you beleive you were actually giving to God because if so why do u act like u were giving to man. You actually told God that the mail order system did not work so you got your money back? When you give in faith you give to God and not man and when you give to God you leave your offering with him. You dont monitor God to see how he uses your money to give you exactly what you want, because he is God and he will bless you in the way that He deems fit. You need to be sure about who you really want to give your money to.If it is a man then you put your self in a positon where you are bound by the words of the man. but if it is GOD you gave it to, know that his words are yeah and Amen and he will honour his word to YOU. Test all spirits the bible says. If you are not sure of who a man of God is ask God for direction. I think you need to dig deep into the word of God about giving as well, and when you feel led to give only by the holy spirit then know that it is God who you are giving to and it is only God that will bless you. I beleive Murdoch is a man of God but his message is not for all men.
 
Thou shall not test the lord your God...I beleive this blog was set up to test God in the first place or who was the blog test set up to test? Were you testing God to see if He will fufill the 58 days guarantee or were you testing the man Murdoch through the 58 day blog test?
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Well i can understand your disappointment however i must say from my own experience,That sometimes the deliverance or breakthrough u get may not be the one u were asking for for example once on a particular fast for finacial breakthru God revealed major dishonesty by a very close loved one no i did not get the cash but the Lord broke the emotional bondage i was in &Didnt even know it!With God u dont always get what u want but u will always have what u need i think what mike murdock is trying to teach is more about building expectancy into our faith
 
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How very disturbing this blog has been. Reading your daily journal shows so clearly that it was all about you and what you wanted all along, not your love for God or seeking HIM.

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Did it not stand out to you that God could have spared your life that day that you were almost hit but the lady that ran a red light?!? ISN'T THAT *MORE* VALUABLE THAN $3,353.93 YOU WANTED?!?!?

Did it occur to you that if you had NOT TAKEN BACK the $58 seed offering that your video game (?) could have done SO WELL that you could have had that amount multiplied over and over againg - AND - that you could have blessed with MORE ideas and creations for FURTHER blessings FROM THAT $58?!?!?

It was to your detriment that you didn't believe and trust God for the seed you gave, but to take it BACK?!?!? It is not a surprise that you had to pay $2500 for TWO (2) different tooth problems - it would have only surprised me if something like that DIDN'T happen!

When you ROB GOD - which you did when you accepted that money back - you bring a curse upon yourself. AND, you remove the cover of protection that God gives to those who honor, obey and trust Him. If you obey God's Word - and don't have sin in your life that will block it (and I believe it you repented someone could still be blessed), HE WILL ALWAYS HONOR HIS WORD!

His Word says to give and it shall be given to you. That when you give what you have will be protected from destruction.

One thing that is important to remember: GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.

He knew when you gave it, you didn't really mean it, it was only a 'gamble' to you, to take a 'chance' to 'win more' - not giving with a heart of love and worship to GOD, that He would USE THAT MONEY TO HELP COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO WOULD WATCH DAYSTAR AND BE TOUCHED BY A MESSAGE OR A SONG OR A TESTIMONY - AND THEIR LIVES BE CHANGED!!!

You had absolutely no concern for anyone else being ministered to or their needs met. You only cared about what was is in for YOU! You even wanted something from Mike Murdock AFTER YOU HAD ALREADY GOTTEN YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THE MINISTRY!

YOU WERE IN IT FOR WHAT WAS IN IT FOR YOU!!!

How very sad that your dead words have negatively affected so many others who've read them and didn't know it was the devil using that to steal their blessings: Not just then on the gift they were thinking of giving, but on no telling how many other blessings that they didn't give because of the sour taste YOUR BLOG gave them!
 
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How very disturbing this blog has been. Reading your daily journal shows so clearly that it was all about you and what you wanted all along, not your love for God or seeking HIM.

If you had, you would have realized that you were giving the $58 to the LORD, and HE WOULD bless you, no matter if Mike Murdock was right or not on the specifics he told you, or if you got the $3,353.93 you were obsessed about - one place or another!

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It was to your detriment that you didn't believe and trust God for the seed you gave, but to take it BACK?!?!? It is not a surprise that you had to pay $2500 for TWO (2) different tooth problems - it would have only surprised me if something like that DIDN'T happen!

When you ROB GOD - which you did when you accepted that money back - you bring a curse upon yourself. AND, you remove the cover of protection that God gives to those who honor, obey and trust Him. If you obey God's Word - and don't have sin in your life that will block it (and I believe it you repented someone could still be blessed), HE WILL ALWAYS HONOR HIS WORD!

His Word says to give and it shall be given to you. That when you give what you have will be protected from destruction.

One thing that is important to remember: GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.

He knew when you gave it, you didn't really mean it, it was only a 'gamble' to you, to take a 'chance' to 'win more' - not giving with a heart of love and worship to GOD, that He would USE THAT MONEY TO HELP COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO WOULD WATCH DAYSTAR AND BE TOUCHED BY A MESSAGE OR A SONG OR A TESTIMONY - AND THEIR LIVES BE CHANGED!!!

You had absolutely no concern for anyone else being ministered to or their needs met. You only cared about what was is in for YOU! You even wanted something from Mike Murdock AFTER YOU HAD ALREADY GOTTEN YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THE MINISTRY!

YOU WERE IN IT FOR WHAT WAS IN IT FOR YOU!!!

How very sad that your dead words have negatively affected so many others who've read them and didn't know it was the devil using that to steal their blessings: Not just then on the gift they were thinking of giving, but on no telling how many other blessings that they didn't give because of the sour taste YOUR BLOG gave them!
 
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How very disturbing this blog has been. Reading your daily journal shows so clearly that it was all about you and what you wanted all along, not your love for God or seeking HIM.

If you had, you would have realized that you were giving the $58 to the LORD, and HE WOULD bless you, no matter if Mike Murdock was right or not on the specifics he told you, or if you got the $3,353.93 you were obsessed about - one place or another!

Did it not stand out to you that God could have spared your life that day that you were almost hit but the lady that ran a red light?!? ISN'T THAT *MORE* VALUABLE THAN $3,353.93 YOU WANTED?!?!?

Did it occur to you that if you had NOT TAKEN BACK the $58 seed offering that your video game (?) could have done SO WELL that you could have had that amount multiplied over and over againg - AND - that you could have blessed with MORE ideas and creations for FURTHER blessings FROM THAT $58?!?!?

It was to your detriment that you didn't believe and trust God for the seed you gave, but to take it BACK?!?!? It is not a surprise that you had to pay $2500 for TWO (2) different tooth problems - it would have only surprised me if something like that DIDN'T happen!

When you ROB GOD - which you did when you accepted that money back - you bring a curse upon yourself. AND, you remove the cover of protection that God gives to those who honor, obey and trust Him. If you obey God's Word - and don't have sin in your life that will block it (and I believe it you repented someone could still be blessed), HE WILL ALWAYS HONOR HIS WORD!

His Word says to give and it shall be given to you. That when you give what you have will be protected from destruction.

One thing that is important to remember: GOD KNOWS YOUR HEART.

He knew when you gave it, you didn't really mean it, it was only a 'gamble' to you, to take a 'chance' to 'win more' - not giving with a heart of love and worship to GOD, that He would USE THAT MONEY TO HELP COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO WOULD WATCH DAYSTAR AND BE TOUCHED BY A MESSAGE OR A SONG OR A TESTIMONY - AND THEIR LIVES BE CHANGED!!!

You had absolutely no concern for anyone else being ministered to or their needs met. You only cared about what was is in for YOU! You even wanted something from Mike Murdock AFTER YOU HAD ALREADY GOTTEN YOUR MONEY BACK FROM THE MINISTRY!

YOU WERE IN IT FOR WHAT WAS IN IT FOR YOU!!!

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As for me, well yes, I do have a right to talk. You see:

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And Mike Murdock had said to make a list of a certain number of things I wanted to ask God to do as the reaping harvest from that seed offering.

Though it was a fairly new concept, I *had* done that before, writing on a special offering (that was going to help children be set free in third world countries and have FOOD) what I wanted to ask God to cause me to reap back: and I wrote on it for God to help/save/protect my two teenage children that were at critical times of their lives - AND HE WORKED MIGHTILY!!!!!

I knew I had saw this work before, and I didn't know at the time who Mike Murdock was, or much about the Biblical principals about how it all worked or any of the other details, but I felt LEAD to give and do it (satan is sure not going to tell you to give to a ministry that helps others!) and so I did...

And I wrote a small list of things/areas I wanted to see God move in my life, then pretty much forgot about it...I didn't think of it much, but I wrote it on a small notepad I carried in my purse.

One of the main things I wrote, and the thing that I felt stirred in my heart was the thing I was supposed to be sowing for, was a Godly, JUST FOR ME, the RIGHT match, HUSBAND.

Let me tell you, that was no small thing!!! It would take way too long to describe it here, but that was a tremendously HUGE miracle that I was asking God for (and my detailed list that I was asking God for was not humanly possible - but then I knew if God created me to want/need that in a man, he must be out there created by God somewhere!).

I need to look up the date of my donation to be sure of the times, but it was either a couple of WEEKS or MONTHS later that I 'met' him - the man God had created as the perfect match for ME!!!!!!!

AND - You should check this out - we were married 4 WEEKS LATER!!!

*So to sum up: I responded to the leading of the Holy Spirit to give a seed gift (of $58) and write down what I wanted to ask God to be the harvest of that seed, A HUSBAND (my Soulmate!), and within WEEKS OR MONTHS - I WAS MARRIED TO HIM AND MY WHOLE LIFE CHANGED!!!!!!!

If anyone is reading this blog, please know, not everyone is honest - you have to ask God to show you if it's His will to respond...but if you're feeling lead to give and it's someone you feel fairly certain will/is using it to help further God's kingdom and help others, the devil wouldn't tell you to do that.

If you give out of a genuine desire to honor and obey God, He WILL bless you for it! God says to test Him in this and see if He won't pour out a blessing.

And also realize: not all ways that people reap are monetary...it could vary well be that God saved your son or daughter from hell or a life of destruction...and you may not even know that it was from your offering THAT HELPED OTHERS GET SET FREE that did it! :D

(That is, until you get to Heaven someday, and God says well done...and He shows you how He multiplied over again your seed gift offering!) :D

RDW
 
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I GAVE THE SEED OFFERING TO DAYSTAR - BECAUSE I FELT PROMPTED TO BY THE HOLY SPIRIT:

And Mike Murdock had said to make a list of a certain number of things I wanted to ask God to do as the reaping harvest from that seed offering.

Though it was a fairly new concept, I *had* done that before, writing on a special offering (that was going to help children be set free in third world countries and have FOOD) what I wanted to ask God to cause me to reap back: and I wrote on it for God to help/save/protect my two teenage children that were at critical times of their lives - AND HE WORKED MIGHTILY!!!!!

I knew I had saw this work before, and I didn't know at the time who Mike Murdock was, or much about the Biblical principals about how it all worked or any of the other details, but I felt LEAD to give and do it (satan is sure not going to tell you to give to a ministry that helps others!) and so I did...

And I wrote a small list of things/areas I wanted to see God move in my life, then pretty much forgot about it...I didn't think of it much, but I wrote it on a small notepad I carried in my purse.

One of the main things I wrote, and the thing that I felt stirred in my heart was the thing I was supposed to be sowing for, was a Godly, JUST FOR ME, the RIGHT match, HUSBAND.

Let me tell you, that was no small thing!!! It would take way too long to describe it here, but that was a tremendously HUGE miracle that I was asking God for (and my detailed list that I was asking God for was not humanly possible - but then I knew if God created me to want/need that in a man, he must be out there created by God somewhere!).

I need to look up the date of my donation to be sure of the times, but it was either a couple of WEEKS or MONTHS later that I 'met' him - the man God had created as the perfect match for ME!!!!!!!

AND - You should check this out - we were married 4 WEEKS LATER!!!

*So to sum up: I responded to the leading of the Holy Spirit to give a seed gift (of $58) and write down what I wanted to ask God to be the harvest of that seed, A HUSBAND (my Soulmate!), and within WEEKS OR MONTHS - I WAS MARRIED TO HIM AND MY WHOLE LIFE CHANGED!!!!!!!

If anyone is reading this blog, please know, not everyone is honest - you have to ask God to show you if it's His will to respond...but if you're feeling lead to give and it's someone you feel fairly certain will/is using it to help further God's kingdom and help others, the devil wouldn't tell you to do that.

If you give out of a genuine desire to honor and obey God, He WILL bless you for it! God says to test Him in this and see if He won't pour out a blessing.

And also realize: not all ways that people reap are monetary...it could vary well be that God saved your son or daughter from hell or a life of destruction...and you may not even know that it was from your offering THAT HELPED OTHERS GET SET FREE that did it! :D

(That is, until you get to Heaven someday, and God says well done...and He shows you how He multiplied over again your seed gift offering!) :D

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39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
 
I am sorry your seed faith didn't work. I am a firm believer in seed faith giving. And have been very blessed. My one suggestion is to next time give it with not agenda other than to bless someone else. I can't say that Mike Murdock's seed covenant works or not. The key to sow into fertile soil. Look at where you sowed the gift seed.
 
Considering you went into this agreement, not in faith, but in critical doubt, I'm not sure how you can believe this would really work.

Not only that but something my mother says, and it's been said all my life, God helps those who help themselves.

Other than risking gambling and surveys and looking for free money, what else did you do to see a return? Did you actually look for a job or were you expecting to sit on your butt and expect God to land one in your lap?

Were you working for your own ends to help along or were you honestly, really, expecting God to hand you everything with no effort on your own?

I suspect the answer is no, you weren't looking to improve your lot in life. You sat on your lazy butt and waited for God to do it all for you.

That's sad and I can't imagine what kind of person would put God to the test like that. Certainly not someone who truly believes in the miracles God can provide in His own time.
 
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HAHAHAHA...it's so crazy heard now in brazil, murdock, and famous brazilian pastor Silas Malafaia, and in end of "seed" of $1000, says "the murdock and me, not promissing nothing about the money returns..." appears this thing here, show what true dirt this guys are!
 
I feel sorry for you !!! You are such an IDIOT !! you thought you could fool God???.... He (God) had read this miserable journal long before you even knew of Mick Murduck.. The Bible clearly estates; that God looks first at the giver before he even consider his offering...GOD KNEW YOUR INTTENTIONS and He simply had the last laugh. (you can not fool God my friend) !!!
 
The problem with most of you is that Dr Mike Murdock is not the source, he is only having you see what God has done for him. If you believe galatians 6:7 it says for WHATEVER a man gives that he shall also reap. So how can you give and not receive? You blame the person who said what happen in his life? LOL! You have a lot to learn and that's why yu are in the situations you are in, blaming others for your problems. When you give yo go to Gid and expect back from God not the person who told you to give. So basically everyone who is saying it did not work is calling God a liar! You sowed and did not reap? Impossiable according to the bible I read. Unless your faith was not present which reading these comments proves so. Please study the word and don't listen to someone who says it did not work.
 
To the Anonymous person that says how can give and not receive? Easy! If you are giving to keep a false Prophet or his ministry going you will not only NOT receive but may anger the Lord who expects his sheep to discern his true voice and read his word in context and not out of context! Cults are some of the biggest advocates of paying tithes for favor and to earn their way to heaven.
Jesus said"Paid in Full", not Pay in Full! Unless you are led by the Holy Spirit be caution in making any decision!
 
Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for every believer

Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law
verse 14 goes on to say this is how we got the blessing of Abraham thru Jesus and faith in the promise of the Spirit.

If people read their entire Bibles with understanding they would know that no fallen sinful human could keep the entire law but someone sinless and perfect, which is why Jesus had fulfill the law for us and give us Grace and right standing with God. We have favor & access to God via the payment Jesus made on the cross .
Read Hebrews and count the word "Better" 13 times to describe how Jesus is a Mediator of a Better Covenant with better promises than the Old Covenant.
Mike Murdock does not name all of the 613 Commandments in Leviticus under the Old Covenant. Typical but let me challenge everyone reading this to type into their search engine 613 Commandments or Judaism 101 613 Commandments to view all of the laws in Leviticus under the Old Covenant. Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 tithing was the least weightier matter of the law and rebuked instead of praising the tithe paying Pharisees and this was before he died to fulfill the law so the Old Covenant law was still in effect, yet Jesus did not think much of this and my guess is he still would rebuke people today trying to earn their own righteousness and favor by their own works. Our righteousness is like a filthy rag according to Isaiah 64:6. If we could have earned our favor and grace from God Jesus would not have had to come down here and do it for us.

People wake up! You are not a Jew under the Old Covenant law but a Christian redeemed from the curse of the law and adopted into a New Covenant of grace through Faith in Jesus. Jesus made the final payment to save you and gave us God's favor when he saved us!
Do you people realize even know the difference between Law vs Grace, Old Covenant vs New Covenant?

Get out your New Testament and prayerfully read Galatians word for word with a good study bible or commentary on Galatians.The Apostle Paul deals with Grace vs Law in Galatians. Romans chapter 7 also deals with New Covenant Grace vs Old Covenant Lawkeeping.
It is sad that the same people talking about the law this and the law that failed to realize they are not keeping the other Old Covenant laws like Sabbath rest (begins Friday night to Saturday night)and most of them are not keeping the Kosher and dietary laws (eat no Pork), not getting their infant males circumcised on the 8th day after birth and neither do they know what days to celebrate the Old Covenant Jewish High Holy Days, like Yom Kipper this yr. it was on Oct. 8th 2011. Commonsense would tell that they only enforce the Old Covenant law that pays their bills and lines their pockets.
Christians 2nd Corinthians 9:7 said to give as you have decided (purposed) without pressure, this is a declaration on voluntary giving. Romans 6:14 "You are not under the Law but under grace."
 
When did seed turn into money?

Jesus said:

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After reading ALL the comments, I agree with those who also believe that you went into this wrong. You actually put the expectation upon Mike. No matter who you give too, if you're NOT led by the Holy Spirit to give, then don't. It's obvious you are mad bcuz it appears to be working for Murdock(so U think). People forget that these televangelists
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Interesting stuff - I'm reading this years after the event but was provoked into doing a search for Murdock after watching his nauseous pimping on Inspiration TV. I don't know what I find saddest in this - the heretical perversion of the Gospel for personal gain that this bloke makes his very wealthy living from, or the people who come on here to defend him! I'm tempted to say the blind leading the blind but I actually have no doubt that Murdock nows fine well what he's doing so its "eyes wide open" into heresy in his case. I find it hard to believe the money changers and lenders Jesus drove out of the temple were any worse than this man. What an offence to the Truth...
 
I will amke a few points from an observer of ppl...Murdocks story about his poverty has driven him to find his identity in money and not in God...If u must have money u must not have peace, joy...which comes from intimacy with God...If Jesus is not enough,then why did He say I am the truth, the Life, the way...It is Jesus we seek not wealth...a real distraction...that can compromise our faith...although, there is nothing wrong with money..as long as you have it n it doesnt have u...paulsaid to live is Christ n to die is gain...its Crist dummy, not money...there is no comparrison...money can never satisfy...only Christ and Christ alone..Hence the Rich man story and the flip side is the Widows Mite...One missed the point n the other understood it all...when we give our hearts with no other expectations God will return that with many blessing including money..cuz He then knows He can trust our hearts to reflect Him and His will/ways...Make the main point the Main point...
 
Im pretty sure the only hypocrite here is Mike Murdock....considering the lavish lifestyle he leads.
 
Amen...finally, an inteligent response with scripture for support of your argument. Mike Murdock is a repugnant reptile....he is getting away with highway robbery, and nobody seems to care but us.
 
Im pretty sure the only hypocrite here is Mike Murdock....considering the lavish lifestyle he leads.
 
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Im pretty sure the only hypocrite here is Mike Murdock....considering the lavish lifestyle he leads.
 
I read this post and many comments and really felt to say one thing only. God responds to a heart relationship with us. A financial seed sewn is an offering to God not a testing of man. When we assess our faith we only have to look at the hearts intention. We are to move in love and pray against evil. I truly believe God would have helped you if the faith seed was sewn with the right intention, to trust Jesus for provision. As for discernment of false prophets and where we sew, we have to rely on the Holy Spirit to lead us to where to sew our seed. God knows where fertile soil is and if we make a mistake but sew with the right heart, He will still multiply our seed somehow. When I give it is my greatest desire that God multiply it for His Kingdom and if He blesses me in the process then I am truly appreciative. I pray this blesses you and draws you even closer to the One who adores you xxx
 
well mine worked, only what i wanted (was not money)did not come in 58 days. I got discouraged, prayed to God "why" and fasted, later that night at bible study one of the ministers came to me not kowing anything and said..."its not time!! Does that mean anything to you?" I said yes. i was so hurt cause I wanted it then, but guess what, it came but about 5 or 6 months later. So it could be the timing for you to. Remember with finances make sure you are still obedient with your tithing, along side of your 58 dollar. We can't rob God and ask for his help to. Watch what you say after you pray the prayer over your 58 dollar seed as well, speak faith regardless what you see.
 
you have to let Holy Spirit lead you. Why 58 days? Only God has the time not us. God got different plans for everybody. Need to be prayerful and Seek God. Sometimes we get our blessing by favor from other people, health, salvation, God will rebuke the devour for our sakes...Keep your faith in God not Dr. Mike Murdock.
 
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You may not realize that your test worked 100%. You approached your planting of seed with absolute faith that it would not work, and you got exactly what you expected -- it did not work. You didn't understand what you were testing.

You misunderstood the promise. The principle of sowing and reaping is not a mechanism, it is a faithfulness. The Bible calls God's faithfulness the Law. God is faithful because the Law is his nature. God responds to faith, not to deposits of dollars and silly, cynical tests. You had faith, albeit negative, and you were not disappointed - the Law worked 100% inasmuch as your test conformed to the Law.

There is a pattern to God's faithfulness. Discern the pattern. The Law isn't a money-making machine, but it is a stable and reliable pattern because it is God's nature. The Bible calls it our salvation. Here is a hint: Y-H-W-H. You probably know these letters as the "name" of God, Jehovah. The Hebrew word for "name," though, is shem, which means the nature of a thing. Y-H-W-H is the nature of God, who is manifest in us as Jesus Christ.

And here is another reason why your investment had no return: you were challenging a god you perceive to be far away and separate on a distant planet called Heaven, who might respond to your proper placement of fifty-eight dollars by some kind of remote control. Dude, the real God is manifest in us as Jesus Christ. There is no division or separation.

The kingdom of God is within you, and the "kingdom" is the King -- Jesus. If He is in you, and he says, "Come unto Me," you are going to go to him by giving Mike Murdock fifty-eight dollars? Are you kidding me? Don't be silly.

Go to Jesus within yourself. Where is he in there? Find him!!! Hmmm. He's not behind the pituitary gland. Not between the knee and the thigh bone. Hmmm. He's spirit . . . 'in' means is . . . ah ha! The imagination! He's hiding behind your imagination as "me," the consciousness that made you a living soul -- the breath of life God breathed into you to animate your mudden body. You are not the mud, you are the spirit. "Oh, hi there, God. How ya doin'? Uh, excuse the mess here. I've been busy misreading the Bible. I thought you couldn't see. I didn't know that you were in here as me."

Yeah, friend, the soul goes BACK to God, the mud stays. The "distance" is only varying degrees of awareness. You misunderstood all this stuff because your teachers are simply rehashing what their teachers taught them, and they misunderstood it all. It's the stuff that flows downhill, sucker. And you thought Mike Murdock was bad. He only cost you fifty-eight dollars, and that for your own foolishness. These lifeless jokers are costing you your life.

Forget them and the word-of-faith teachers. Get your religion wholesale -- God will answer you himself. Learn how to read. God will show you what he means by what he says. He often speaks by illustration and illumination. You will find him and the Bible a world apart from what your teachers said. But it is what it is. Who are you going to believe, teachers who have to deny half of scripture to make their understanding make sense, or God who tells you what he means himself (though what he says tears apart your world)?

-- Dan Steele, aka imagicworldview -- The Becoming God blog.
 
hi there faith-seeker . faith is believing that you have possession of something even before yo can see it with your physical eyes. you started your 58 days in unbelief. the question is not whether the 58 day harvest is true. the real question is what do you believe. You can tell what a person believes by what you hear coming from their mouth. if you believed in the 58 day harvest your daily conversation would have been i believe that i am debt free. I have sowed my seed and received my harvest therefore i am joyful and expectant of the news that i am now debt free. To walk in faith we must trust and believe like a child knowing without a shadow of doubt that you have received what you asked for. God is not a man that he should lie. The promises of God are YES and not no. So faithseeker. Stop looking for faith, just receive it by believing every word that God says. He says whilst the earth remains there will always be seed time and harvest. Yo sowed a seed so a harvest must come. For you to receive the harvest you must beleive. you are blessed.
 
If you dont believe what milke murdock says about the $58 seed, then what makes you think you are going to believe what is written in the free book you got from him. Why would you want a free book you dont believe
 
No, taking back the seed is appropriate in this case because you're supposedly giving to the house of God correct? To a ministry? I don't think the inside of Mike Murdocks wallet has pews and stained glass windows.....if it didn't go where intended (to help people of God) then why would God bless it? Last I heard God doesn't bless a criminals money and that's what Murdock is.
 
I like that comment! I sowed my first seed of 58 dollars back in 2004 and within sixty had the car I was believing God for when I sent the money in. Faith is huge here rather u give to a televangelist or local preacher, if I were not a faith believing person who serves God consistently I would never sow to begin with. I don't see the devil trying to bless Christians, but we expect Godto bless everyone no matter how they live or serve Him! Ijs...

 
What ever happened with your computer game?
 
Amen, give DAYSTAR back the money.
 
Amen..
 
Key words, "inline with God's Word" no matter how ppl hate on Dr. Murdock his preaching is BIBLICAL..
 
Exactly what I thought of reading this entire entry. You even prayed a few times 4 God to use you mightily & DAYSTAR is mighty but you missed that!
 
Exactly what I thought of reading this entire entry. You even prayed a few times 4 God to use you mightily & DAYSTAR is mighty but you missed that!
 
LOL... that's not the way it works. this is not faith.. you just did trial and error. Faith totally believes , it does NOT TRY!
 
Hi there,
James chapter 1 verses 5-7 says, "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach and it will be given to him

But LET HIM ASK IN FAITH WITH NO DOUBTING, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.

For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord.

I believe this is the reason why you did not receive your full blessing but just part of it.

10 days ago I sowed a 58 blessing seed asking God for a job. I asked for a certain hourly salary. 10 days later I got the job, it pays £3 an hour less than want I had asked for but I will still get £900 per month more than what my current job pays.
Do you think I am miserable saying 'it doesn't work? No way I am rejoicing and praising God. I got £108,000 per year more!
God bless you
Jennifer
 
Never mind this poor, misdirected soul Murdock. If he asks low income people to cough it up, or die spiritually, so HIS payments are made in a timely manner, then he is not really a man of God! He, and everyone here, should give Jesus Christ all that energy and love, not the banks. Study, in ernst, the Book of Mormon, then you can tell everyone how your lives improved exponentially without having to wait 58 days! No need to count the days till your blessings start overflowing all aspects of your lives, when you really understand and sincerely pray about the true gospel restored.
 
Anybody can yap words from the Bible, and how come "Dr." Murdock as you call him, has the same old story each time? There is SO much more to the Bible and God, but he is stuck on the root of ALL evil... MONEY!!! Poor lad is going to wake up at the Pearly Gates broke,not just in the wallet, but spiritually bankrupt as well. Why does anyone listen to this lost, poor evildoer?
 
Just think, Book of Mormon!!
 
Peace and blessings come by way of His restored gospel here on Earth, known as the Book of Mormon! Lol. Check it out, then pray sincerely about it.
 
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